Flames

[ralph]

Well heres my attempt at fire, I'm obessed with getting this flame thing right. This was done a piece of cardboard painted black. The last pic was my attempt to start a 2nd layer. PLEASE ALL ADVICE NEEDED, WANTED!!!

[erikgeist]

I haven't had luck with flame, but I think you need less flames just a couple two or three and then overlap. Looks like your out of room for the second set. I've watched the videos and they usually use white and overlap with red and then again with yellow. Start with the sides and then with the second layer go in the middle.
Hope I helped you out.
Erik

[Cromz]

from what I have found,

1st layer of flame is just a rough draft of the flame and is also the furthest away from the view point less detail no template needed for hard lines, this layer is normally darker red'ish.

2nd layer is alittle tighter in design a little brighter like orange, and more defined shapes.

3rd layer is more defining the 2nd layers attributes (curves / hard edges ) but not completely covering the 2nd layer, possably in yellow or bright orange.

4th layer is more hot-spot / high-light brighter yellow or white.

flame-train.jpg

I didn't spend allot of time on this, spend more time thinking about flow and
layout and it will look allot better then this example. on #4 I put some transpartent red dusting over most of it to bring it together alittle.

done with createx black, opaque red, transparent orange, transparent yellow, transparent red, and white. with a master g26 on a 11 by 14 lyon's canvas.

at least that's how I have been doing mine. :/ probilly wrong lol


of course you can use kandies or over redused colors ( as kandies ) in between the layers to bring them together.

flame.jpg

[ralph]

Thanks erik and cromz for your advice. I wil give it a try soon (tomorrow prob). I'll post te pics. thanks again.

[Neder/Brit]

I have had a couple of goes at flames and up until now they have all ended up in the trashcan. I applaud your determination Ralph, good luck I look forward to seeing your progress.

[Sabreghost]

I found this guy on youtube very helpful, this is the link to the first video, there are 3 in all, his name is ed hubbs. if the link doesn't work, just type in ed hubbs true fire into the utube search engine.

YouTube - TRUE FIRE tutorial - Part 1

[Sabreghost]

ps, i have tried true fire, got the hang of it now, butonly in normal coulours. I tried to do green flame, no doubt some here can tell you about my green flaming seaweed, lol
good luck with it ralph

[Neder/Brit]

Oh Yeah Sabre show us some flameing seaweed LOL

[theairbrushguy]

Hey now Ralph. found a couple of old white flame patterns lying around the shop. The back of a metal chair and a panel I did for a quick demo a while ago. Keep in mind there are a bunch of ways to do these and you just gotta find your fit. Based on how you are going now, with the white base, these may help. Remember, there are many shades/intensities of white.
TABG

Airpower Art Studio

[Ern666]

Hey Ralph you got some pretty good tips here i just finished trying fire myself, layering is the key... those patterns that TABG posted are definitely a great start. Thanks TABG, usually (for me at least) the hardest part of fire is laying out the first layer this will help.
Ern

[ralph]

Pat, Thanks man, these pics will be a big help. Sorry dude i didn't get a chance to Ab today like i thought i would. I'll do some more during the week and post.
Ern, I hear ya!!