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Old 06-07-2007   #1 (permalink)
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As alot of you know, I do alot of panels and give them out to
stay in practice. This panel is foam core. You can buy it in 22 by 28 inch
sheets at Art Supply stores. This is how I did it.
1.Get sheet and measure with square and cut in half..
2.Get desired sheet size and spray rattle can acrylic or anything that dries
fast and can be recoated with no problem.
3.Break out airbrush and do background in clouds or whatever you like.
4.Get Createx or Auto Air opaque and with a synthetic liner any brand you like
do your scrolls. Cool thing when over clear you can wipe it off if you make an error.
5.When dry clear it and seal designs
You can also use a Mack series 70 striper for water base and do dagger
style designs to. Using water based stuff is not new even for this. Many
ShowCard Signs are done in water base too.
Always keep water, oil, and poly type brushes seperate.
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very nice mix I like it
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fresnojohn, I like to see more pinstripe examples,this is 1 example

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Great post Fresno! I still would like to learn to pinstripe someday.
You always do some great clean and flowing designs.
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Hi Fresno, Really nice looking. I like it a lot.
Forgive the dumb question but I've never done PinStriping and never saw it done. But how do you do the parts that look like the dager stroke? Where it goes from a point to thick and back to a point. Do you just make more than one pass and fill inbetween?
Thanks and Thanks for sharing and the "How To."
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fresno, what books or dvds do you recommend for someone interest in learning how to pinstripe , the body-shop paint store that I buy from sell dvds but not sure who it put out by
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Yea, What the Redneck said,........... love your work!!
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Thank you all for the nice comments! I will tell all of you about this and also some great books to get. Remember to that sometimes you can check some of these out of the library too. Sometimes they have these under airbrushing or fine art. I have found many airbrushing books under other art listings as well. I will go though this and please let me know if I missed any question.

As far a going to a point or a dagger it is all in the hand pressure of the brush.
Such as, I really load alot of paint in the brush. I do a very light sketch to just show something for a guide. When I start a scroll it is always thick. Think of a capital letter C. Lay it down and into the curve lighten up the pressure. Keeping the same light touch make the two thin lines. Do not stop
or you will get a spot of paint and a tell tale thick line where it shouldn't be.
You can end it thin or if paint is still wet enough finish of a thick ending in a C or just a dagger. Just like in Airbrushing, Thick to thin, only this is hand pressure.
Satch, also when I am all finished with design, let it set up, then with different color make a paint spot at start of every thick begining. Or since this is all water base get out your airbrush and make a nice highlight. It can have a cool effect and good exercise in daggers too.

As far as books are concerned, I have bought a few newer ones at Borders, or
ordered from Amazon. Some used book stores have these and you really have to look. Mack brush sells some and so does airbrush action too, coast airbrush, and Dixie art.

Brands and Titles, DVDs too

DVDs that I just got and I keep watching. I rented these first from
Smart Flix. You get DVDs off the web and rent for a week. Then if good
I will spend the money and purchase them.
I have both Scroll pinstriping by Wizard and Dagger pinstriping. They are worth the money, and well produced. He does such a nice job. I knew alittle about scrolling and his video really helped. I feel these are the best videos on striping and scrolling ever. Coast Airbrush and Dixie Art Sell these also.

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Coast Airbrush and Dixie Art Supplies, and Amazon, and mack brush

These are new and I just don't have the room for more but I looked at them and they show alot of styles too.

Pinstripe Planet by Herb Martinez
Pinstripe Masters
Flame Painting

I have Pinstriping by Dick Bird
Pinstriping by Ed big Daddy Roth
These are limited availabe Buy from www.eastwood.com or www.seelig.com
have to double check addresses.

Bobbo's little book of pinstriping designs
A book binder of at least 100 designs hand drawn out in binder form
for a reference. buy from www.lazerlines.com

Pinstriping and Vehicle Graphics by John Hannukaine
Tramps Mild to Wild Pinstriping Designs by John Tramp Warner
This is another sketch book of designs. He does nice stuff with animals in his designs. Don't be put off since its a sketch book. Many good Ideas.
Pinstriping Made Easy by Craig Judd from Dick Blick
Advanced Pinstriping by Bob Kovacs from Baa Direct (Both are videos)

Hope this helps, I will post more photos. I will be glad to
help any of you. Thanks for the nice words.
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I guess that I will try the library again its seems that they are unsure where the pinstrip books are located, I hate telling people how to do their work but will explain to the library helpers. thanks for your advice
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I bought the beginners pinstriping kit from coast. It comes with 2 of Wizards dvd's. The beginning DVD and the Dagger stroke DVD. The only critisism I have about the Beginners DVD is he doesnt show how to clean the brushes. He shows all I need to get up and running but then leaves me with dirty brushes at the end, its not until the end of the Dagger stroke DVD that he explains what to do to clean your brushes.

Other then that I found both DVD's very very helpful to get myself started.

The Beginners kit comes with all you need to get started, its a little pricey but to get what you need without trying to fumble through tons of different brushes, paints, reducers, hardeners and try to make a decision what would be best to start with.
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Lots of great info Fresno, thank you! I do have the book pinstripe masters and that is a good one.
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Nice scrolling Fresno, I never tried water based. AL
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Whaooo fresh , very nice scrolling design.
Is water base are also good for pinstriping ??? Even to paint curves ?
I will buy a mack specially done for acrilics paint and try by myself , hope it will be ok. Do we have to thin the paint with water or acrylic medium?
I have try to do scrooling but i'm not able do do nices circles.
Hope it will coming after hard training.
Here 2 new pinstriping practice i've done witnh one shot over piece of glass.
I have to practice more.

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Nice lines Pat. Hey Pat you can do circles (well some people can) with a sword striper but it is very hard. Better to use a scrolling brush such as the Kafka (my favorite) or others like the Jensen swirly-que or the scroll brushes like the ones Mack makes to Bobbo Dunn's specs or the Wizard's design. They are all good tools, I just prefer the Kafka #1 and #3. AL
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Pat,
Nice looking work! When I use a water base paint, I just use it unthinned.
Put alittle bit of water when it starts to set up. Water base works great to
practice. You never know when you may need to do a design on a project
thats not a hard surface. The brushes are alittle pricey. About 13 dollars
each and not many people carrry ones for water based paints for doing
dagger designs. For scroll practice the liners made of synthetic will work fine.
One shot is still my faverite paint. I use water base if I do an inside sign
that requires striping or scrolling and the oder of paint is an issue. The dagger
brush for water base also requires alot of triiming and shortening the handle to work good.
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