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    Default How to start a goalie mask help?

    Hi ABers,

    I'm attempting to move from t-shirts to goalie masks and was wandering how you fellow ABer,s would start painting this goalie mask. My thoughts were to paint it all white, mask out the chain, skull and white areas, then paint yellow , paint the black area in the skull, do the black detailing on the yellow area, then finish the skull. Is this the right approach, any suggestions are welcome.

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    Hi,,i have painted some goaliemasks,,,the important thing is how you prep the helmet.if you do a crapy job there the paint will peel off.
    i scuff the helmet with 800 paper ,,wash it ,apply plastic primer,,,
    then i lay a coat with 2 K(clear+hardener) clearcoat,scuff the clear and start painting..
    you need a 2part clear as an topcoat too,,spraycan clear will not work,,
    it has to be hard so it will stand up for the abuse,
    /kimmo

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    I echo what landsbro says... prep is king... and spraycan clear is not what you want. Pucks make a nice little 'impression' on any surface, and they can kill a paintjob really quickly. Same rules apply for any helmet work... prep, clean, prime, paint & clear.

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    That's great guys, for helping a newbie

    Once I have it prep'd , how would you approach the painting part. So if u were to start this project how would you do it approach it. I guess I mean what layers to start first, or should I just tape the whole mask then cut the areas to paint?

    Carlo

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    I would go light to dark as far as the order of colors goes.
    As to which elements to do...
    A lot depends on your skills and talents, and what elements you want to make masks and stencils for, and what you want to freehand. I would probably take the finished painted helmet to a body shop and get them to shoot a few layers of a good clear coat.
    The rattle can versions tend to be pretty wimpy, and extremely expensive if you try to get the same amount of coverage.
    I would remove the mask and hardware and all the trim I could, and thoroughly mask anything else I didn't want painted before you even start doing any prep work. Trying to get paint out of foam or tiny vents and hardware is a pain and a severe waste of your time and patience.

    Without better and bigger photos or drawings, it's hard to give you more specific instructions or directions.

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    All good advice that's great.

    I've also attached a bigger pic for u to see. I just want to know how you guys would approach the painting after the prep work, then I should be on my way.

    Thanks,
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    I agree with Fontgeek... light to dark is how I'd go.

    Some folks have a difficult time visualizing the various stages of the painting before they begin. Each painting has a number of layers, and each layer responds to the other layers to provide the end result. The most realistic paintings use colors that are not obvious in the end, but which harmonize with other colors... it's the same in the approach for the composition you are showing. There are a number of ways to approach it, making it difficult for another artist to give you a 'how to'. Replicating the steps of another artist may not bring you the result you seek.

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    i use to lay down the base color on the goalie mask first..then apply a coat of clear
    on top of that,,,that way it makes it easier to work on,don't have to worrie about
    scratching the base color and if you need to cut a stencil on the helmet the "cut"
    will not show when you clear it again,,
    and i had no problems with colors light or dark,,the coat of clear helps it doesn't
    darken the values as it would if i painted straight on the base without clear.
    the things i think of is how the design will be if any parts will be overlapping
    then i start with the one that will under the second design,,,just make up your mind how you want the design/grafix to be and build up the paintjob bit by bit,,

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    genghiskhan

    If I read correctly what you are asking is how do I copy this artist work?

    Probably not a good idea.

    Airbrush Technique is about helping you learn the skills to render your own artwork I don't believe we should be in the business of helping folks copy other artist work.

    This is a very touchy subject with lots of artist that prefer their work not be copied.

    Please folks do not post pictures of other artist work asking how you can airbrush (copy) that design. Its not fair the artist that originally painted it. The better route to take would be to contact the original artist and seek his/her help.

    Just my two cents on the subject.

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    The method of applying the paint on a hard surface is no different than on a tshirt. The prep and the fact you can not blast the paint on are different but how you do your painting is the same more or less. I work form dark to light from background to foreground. That is how I am comfortable and what works for me. Each person has to learn what they like, there are no rules.

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    I would draw out what you want on paper, do sketches of an over all view, and views of the helmet from each side. Then look at each element as an individual piece, an break that element down into basic steps.
    People make projects harder than they need to be, for many new artists this line of thinking makes projects like the helmet you show an overwhelming prospect.

    I'm with Don though. If you are using this artists paint job as inspiration, that's great, but if you are doing it to sell off and claim as your own design, then I have a major problem with it.
    Using other artists work as inspiration, or as a method to learn planning or a technique is commonly done, however making money and a name off of someone else's artwork or design is theft if it is done without their knowledge and permission. Remember, the artwork itself is copyrighted to the artist who designed and painted it, not the person who has or owns the helmet.

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